G: It seems these woman, and other women in general have played a really crucial role in real and local food resurgence -
W: I really think that women and food has a natural connection. Women are nurturers, not that men aren't -
G: Breast-milk is a great example - you have food built into your physical structure.
W: Yeah, it's ironic, that women are just, in only the last 30 years, becoming renowned for being chefs - where did that disconnect happen?
G: The history of food is so peculiar, I am baffled by that myself. Somehow I geeked out and watched Top Chef all least season - which was the first time a woman had won Top Chef. It was interesting to see how significant of a role sexism and gender issues played in the Top Chef discussion groups. Talking about, this woman should have won, but didn't because she was a woman, and things on that note.
W: Granted, I have never seen one of those cooking shows, so I am totally judging it off of what I imagine it to be which is that it's all just a competition. And I just don't think that is where women are coming from in terms of cooking.
G: Right, and what makes Top Chef interesting, is that you see this
side of these women contestants that is very competitive, and aggressive and ready to rock.
W: I'm just not into it. It's putting competition and weird power dynamics on a really basic thing like cooking. The content doesn't matter, it could be anything, the power dynamics are what makes people watch it.
G: On that note, being a women in this competitive world of cooking, especially in the restaurant industry, there are certainly disadvantages. In that men have pretty much been the restaurant industry for so long, since the industries inception really. So you are more likely then not to be working under a man, if you are a woman working in a restaurant. I am curious, in the local and organic food industry, which you have created a niche in - have you found advantages or disadvantages to being a woman? Are there any that are gender-based in this particular faction of the industry?
W: I don't really know how to answer that. I worked in this sophisticated, high-end restaurant that was run by a man and a woman. She was a very powerful lesbian woman, and he was the more fun business partner, and he was gay and they really had different dynamics then the ones you are describing. I was pretty low on the totem pole though, so no matter what I would defer to whoever was above me. And in that situation it wasn't about gender, it was just about my experience.
G: That seems to be the way it is in the progressive food world. We can say men this or women that, but obviously not everyone lives up to the cultural stereotype.
W: Honestly, I feel like those sort of dynamics are actively trying not to exist in this movement. It's more egalitarian.
G: Definitely. Now that you have come back to your home of Nevada City, and you have immersed yourself in the local food community here. Where is our community at in relationship to the macroscopic local food movement? All around the world these incredibly progressive and sustainable measures are being achieved toward local food security. How are we doing here in relationship to the greater world, and where are we going?
W: If you look around this county, everyone is doing something or starting something, and I just feel like, 'the more the merrier.' Someone grows basil in their yard, and another person grows blueberries, and the more of that networking we have, the possibilities just grow.
Wendy Van Wagner will teach the workshop "Cooking with the Seasons- Spotlight on Fall" at Ladyfest Nevada County. For a full workshop schedule go here.
Interview by Graham Hayes. Go to Graham's website, Nourish Wise, for more information about his cooking classes, Community Supported Kitchen menu, and catering services.